[SCADASEC] FWD 2 of 2.

Sun Feb 17 17:52:32 CST 2008

Apparently someone else agrees this is not done with good intention.  For JP's sake, this should be deleted from this list.

-Clint

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From: scadasec-bounces at news.infracritical.com [mailto:scadasec-bounces at news.infracritical.com] On Behalf Of Leif Ericksen
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 5:34 PM
To: scadasec at news.infracritical.com
Subject: [SCADASEC] FWD 2 of 2.

	There were more I am just taking two of them this is the last one.

--
Leif

-------- Forwarded Message --------
> From: beenthere at hush.com
> To: full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] SCADA Security Corruption
> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:11:28 -0800
> 
> On Feb 17, 2008 10:28 AM, Ghost Rider <gh0str1d3r84 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> "After some offline discussion and a bit more research I agree that
> the credibility doesn't seem very reliable.  It looks like it was 
> on a
> (non-google) server archive where somebody was manually saving chat
> archives.  Who knows... they could have been forged or manipulated.
> The only way to know for sure would be to see the actual google
> server archive."
> 
> So what's the point, Ghostrider, other than character assassination
> (or is that asinine-sasion)?
> 
> Simply by highlighting what is at most dubious information, you
> present it as fact and leave the rest to now-public conjecture.
> 
> What is your relation to the guy?  Indeed, when were you
> fired...and for what?
> 
> Even if your grudge-specific accusation had a smidgen of truth,
> exactly how many people sharing that name are in the US..or the
> world for that matter?  If you goto:
>  http://www.census.gov/genealogy/www/namesearch.html  one can get a 
> pretty good idea how common the name is, and work the
> statistics yourself...  Better yet, if I goto a search engine
> starting with Za...I find 5 different people with the same name,
> residing anywhere from beautiful Bakersfield, Ca to McCalla, 
> Alabama (don't forget your Banjo, pig, and slobbering 'Tard, 'ya 
> hear?).
> 
> The odds seem to be...lacking, Ghostrider.
> 
> What a nasty, spiteful and cheap way to air your grievance against
> someone -- one can only hope the groundwork you're laying doesn't
> come back to bite you, hard, when the Karma PoPo demand unfettered
> access inside 'yer head.
> 
> Let's be honest here, perhaps a rare, seminal event for 'ya --
> you're not performing research, you're trying to throw this guy
> under a bus, an inquisition by any other name -- and I'm calling
> you out.
> 
> Ghostrider, the question to everyone's answer is usually found from
> within, and I hope the looking glass doesn't hurt too much when
> it's pointed your way some day.
> 
> -BeenThere
> 
> p.s. Have you seen what the average SCADA admin looks like?  One 
> guy in these parts looks like he could have walked off the AC/DC 
> Tour Bus...and I must say, I can tell when he comes on shift 'cause 
> the lights burn just a little brighter.
> 
> <-----cut---org message below------>
> 
> On Feb 17, 2008 10:28 AM, Ghost Rider <gh0str1d3r84 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> I was trying to do a little research on SCADA security and I noticed
> this one guy's name (Jonathan Pollet) kept coming up.  It seems he
> is
> one of the leading experts and it also looks like he is a Vice
> President at Industrial Defender (www.industrialdefender.com).  It
> looks like they are a leading SCADA security company.  Well through
> my
> Google searching I also came across an interesting archived Google
> Talk chat with his name in it.  I guess not only is this guy a
> leader
> in SCADA Security it seems he is into drug trafficking also (pasted
> below).  These are the people protecting critical networks like
> power
> grids and nuclear plants!?!?!?!
> 
> 
> Chat with Jonathan Pollet show details 7/29/07
> 
> Jonathan Pollet to me
> 
> 
> (SNIP…)
> 
> 
> 11:51 PM Jonathan: nice
> 
>  speaking of drugs...ha ha
> 
>  i felt weird asking you about that today
> 
> me: yeah we'll have to hook up 'morrow
> 
>  i don't care
> 
> Jonathan: but I really didn't know where to turn
> 
>  so thanks
> 
> 11:52 PM me: yeah i have shady friends
> 
>  lol
> 
> Jonathan: I've got to figure out the best way to transport it
> through
> Chicago and onto Vegas
> 
> me: oh shit you have a destination before vegas?
> 
>  well don't put it in your checked bags
> 
> 11:53 PM Jonathan: yeah that's what i heard too
> 
> me: you'll have about an 80 to 90% chance of getting popped
> 
> Jonathan: i was thinking of splitting all the flaps up
> 
> me: best way is to tape it to your leg
> 
> Jonathan: into different places in my laptop bad
> 
>  bag
> 
>  ah
> 
>  cool
> 
>  didn't think about that
> 
> me: don't put it in ANY bag
> 
>  if you get popped for a random search they can find it
> 
> 11:54 PM Jonathan: can you have Ross break it up into small bagges
> 
> me: yeah
> 
> Jonathan: or paper flaps
> 
>  just not foil
> 
> me: it'll be tiny tiny ziplocks
> 
>  you can tape those to your leg
> 
> Jonathan: sweet
> 
> 11:55 PM i can handle that
> 
> me: chances of you getting strip searched is probably zero
> 
> Jonathan: yeah, I've flown thousands of times
> 
> me: chances of you walking past a drug dog is zero
> 
> Jonathan: never strip searched at all
> 
> me: yeah you'll be 100% safe taping it to you
> 
> Jonathan: i've ran into a god before....but only going in and out
> of canada
> 
>  dog
> 
> 11:56 PM me: i've never found god in an airport
> 
>  :P
> 
> Jonathan: haha
> 
> 
> (..SNIP)
> 
> 
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